The Xbox ecosystem is hilariously overpriced. $430 for 4tb of storage, $650 for the console, $80 ho hum games. No wonder it isn't selling.

Since this expansion card uses M.2 2230 sized SSD's, are there any on the market that even go up to 4TB?

About time but its a ridiculous price. I really hate this system they do because its a locked ecosystem and way overpriced for what you get. Also sucks you cant increase the internal storage capacity. For awhile I know you could make your own but since they locked that out it really irritated me.

I cant believe it took this long for something bigger than 2tb to come out in this day and age (Especially considering how big games and updated have gotten).

TheinsanegamerNThe Xbox ecosystem is hilariously overpriced. $430 for 4tb of storage, $650 for the console, $80 ho hum games. No wonder it isn't selling.

“$80 ho hum games” better looking than what PlayStation has right now and loving Xbox games on PS5…

…so why not get a PC at this point? $499(same as the launch price of the Series X) + $599 for the console(Series X or discless Series X for $549)

4TB SSD for $499 where as you can get an 8TB SSD M.2 for $100 more…

Both WD_Black and Seagate expansion cards are too expensive. I've been trying to snag a 512GB one for friend's b-day gift. But not for $95/$120. $60-70 would be more fair.

Gooigi's Ex“$80 ho hum games” better looking than what PlayStation has right now and loving Xbox games on PS5…

…so why not get a PC at this point? $499(same as the launch price of the Series X) + $599 for the console(Series X or discless Series X for $549)

4TB SSD for $499 where as you can get an 8TB SSD M.2 for $100 more…

That's the only correct answer indeed.

PC gaming still strongest in the field imho. Even with the GPU market as it is. As a matter of fact, as the corporate stranglehold on consoles gets stronger, the PC will grow ever more, because people don't like being nickled and dimed for everything. The PC is still the platform that can scale along entirely with your budget and demands.

Thats awful pricing, whats the non discounted price?

chrcolukThats awful pricing, whats the non discounted price?

$499. $50 dollars cheaper than the Series X Discless

hahahahahahahahahaha...yea, Bust Buy, like that's where I go for all my 'putin stuff.......:D

Typical ponzi-scheme type of BS...take the so-called "MSRP", mark it up by $100 (or more), then put it "on sale" for $25 off and make it sound/look like they're giving you a spectacular deal....

n.O.t....

Gooigi's Ex“$80 ho hum games” better looking than what PlayStation has right now and loving Xbox games on PS5…

This is, objectively, false. The playstation library isnt great but the xbox is positively abysmal. It has, what Forza? Halo? Everything else is available on the PS5.

Gooigi's Ex…so why not get a PC at this point? $499(same as the launch price of the Series X) + $599 for the console(Series X or discless Series X for $549)

4TB SSD for $499 where as you can get an 8TB SSD M.2 for $100 more…

A lot of people ask themselves the same thing, which is why the PC platform is now bigger than all 3 consoles combined in revenue. I dont see xbox surviving another generation.

TheinsanegamerNThis is, objectively, false. The playstation library isnt great but the xbox is positively abysmal. It has, what Forza? Halo? Everything else is available on the PS5.

This is what people who just don’t like Xbox would say. You haven’t been paying attention to Xbox and the games that have came out and it shows.

Indiana Jones
Elder Scrolls Oblivion remaster
DOOM Dark Ages
South of Midnight
Avowed
Hellblade 1 and 2
Grounded
Sea of Thieves
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
Ghostwire Tokyo(this was released on Xbox first)
Hi-Fi Rush
Deathloop

Just to name a few that I played. Xbox first party games are STACKED.

TheinsanegamerNI dont see xbox surviving another generation.

That’s my same view on PlayStation. I just don’t see them surviving with JUST their first party exclusives and consoles. Consoles are not profitable(unless you’re Nintendo…cheap bastards) and Xbox is doing JUST fine. Just pay attention more to them and not have a pedantic view.

bonehead123hahahahahahahahahaha...yea, Bust Buy, like that's where I go for all my 'putin stuff.......:D

Typical ponzi-scheme type of BS...take the so-called "MSRP", mark it up by $100 (or more), then put it "on sale" for $25 off and make it sound/look like they're giving you a spectacular deal....

n.O.t....

I remember on my xbox 360 falcon model which used the old hdd bumper style hdd caddy, I brought a standard 2.5 inch drive and swapped it into the caddy, worked fine. Was same issue back then with inflated storage using propriety connector.

Gooigi's ExThis is what people who just don’t like Xbox would say. You haven’t been paying attention to Xbox and the games that have came out and it shows.

Indiana Jones
Elder Scrolls Oblivion remaster
DOOM Dark Ages
South of Midnight
Avowed
Hellblade 1 and 2
Grounded
Sea of Thieves
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
Ghostwire Tokyo(this was released on Xbox first)
Hi-Fi Rush
Deathloop

Just to name a few that I played. Xbox first party games are STACKED.

These are not Xbox exclusives. Almost all of them are available on PS5 with the exception of Awoved and South of Midnight. Hellblade II is coming this summer.
I asked ChatGPT first and double checked from here: store.playstation.com/en-us/search

That it released on Xbox first or is a first party game is fairly meaningless as only Hi-Fi Rush fits that description (13 months before coming to PS5) and as a thanks for their most popular exclusive MS closed the studio. Talk about killing your golden goose....

Ghostwire and Deathloop were actually PS5 exclusives that later came to Xbox due to MS-Bethesda acquisition. And neither was a hit anyway.
So much for this supposed stacked list of games that would incentivize anyone to get Xbox instead.

Meanwhile PS5 had the following exclusives:
Astro Bot
Stellar Blade
Demon Souls remake
Gran Turismo 7
Horizon Forbidden West
Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales
And more...

So which one would buyers gravitate towards? Awoved that flopped and South Of Midnight that did not do big numbers or much more popular PS5 exclusives?
The answer is clear. Couple that with non-proprietary storage upgrade possibility that cost far less and the choice is clear. The sales numbers also reflect that.

Xbox is far more likely to give up first as MS has plenty of other endeavors where as for Sony, PlayStation is far more important and not just another side business. Xbox is not doing just fine. It's barely surviving.

TomorrowMeanwhile PS5 had the following exclusives:
Astro Bot
Stellar Blade
Demon Souls remake
Gran Turismo 7
Horizon Forbidden West
Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales
And more...

Out of those list of PlayStation games, only three of them are exclusive, Gran Turismo 7( hella mid compared to other real simulator games that are not Forza), Astro Bot(which is the only solid game out that list) and Demon Souls(ahhh the game that’s so much better than Elden Ring…). The others are on PC so they are not exclusive either(and usually the better version).

TomorrowThese are not Xbox exclusives. Almost all of them are available on PS5 with the exception of Awoved and South of Midnight. Hellblade II is coming this summer.
I asked ChatGPT first and double checked from here: store.playstation.com/en-us/search

I can make that same exact argument that Sony doesn’t have any exclusives. Once it’s on PC it stops being exclusive.

TomorrowThat it released on Xbox first or is a first party game is fairly meaningless as only Hi-Fi Rush fits that description (13 months before coming to PS5) and as a thanks for their most popular exclusive MS closed the studio. Talk about killing your golden goose....

Except they are not closed down silly. Yeah they did screw over Tango Gameworks but the fact that it was a game made for Xbox first and then PS5. It was exclusive and once Sony fans started playing it, they loved it. And Xbox has plenty more golden goose’s in their line up.

TomorrowGhostwire and Deathloop were actually PS5 exclusives that later came to Xbox due to MS-Bethesda acquisition. And neither was a hit anyway.
So much for this supposed stacked list of games that would incentivize anyone to get Xbox instead.

Oh so since MS bought Zennimax, those games are not a hit since they were exclusively on PlayStation…right… also they were well received for your information. It’s part of their stacked line up of games. Again, that same mob hatred mentality as the other commenter.

TomorrowSo which one would buyers gravitate towards? Awoved that flopped and South Of Midnight that did not do big numbers or much more popular PS5 exclusives?
The answer is clear. Couple that with non-proprietary storage upgrade possibility that cost far less and the choice is clear. The sales numbers also reflect that.

Xbox is far more likely to give up first as MS has plenty of other endeavors where as for Sony, PlayStation is far more important and not just another side business. Xbox is not doing just fine. It's barely surviving.

Avowed did not flop lol and same goes for South of Midnight. Sounds like these are not your type of games and that’s fine, but to call them flop is just wrong and just hating Xbox for the sake of hating Xbox. The status quo of “gamers” who think they know better lol

The storage thing is super dumb and the fact that they are charging that much is ridiculous. I can sit here and give faults to companies. When it comes to Sony or Nintendo, anything they do is just a slap on the wrist but Microsoft? People want death and make up dumb shit like “Xbox is dying” but not paying a damn attention what Microsoft is doing.

PlayStation is most certain not more important and the fact you say and believe that is what giving REAL gamers a bad name. You can love a company but you have to give criticism otherwise you’re a delusional fanboy and can’t see your favorite company do no wrong.

Gooigi's ExOut of those list of PlayStation games, only three of them are exclusive, Gran Turismo 7( hella mid compared to other real simulator games that are not Forza), Astro Bot(which is the only solid game out that list) and Demon Souls(ahhh the game that’s so much better than Elden Ring…). The others are on PC so they are not exclusive either(and usually the better version).

I was comparing Xbox vs PS5. I did not count PC, Switch or any other platform. Besides PC always receives Sony games later and never on the same day as PS5 as porting takes time do do properly. It doesn't matter that they eventually came to PC as they are not on Xbox and that's what the argument is about.
I could also make the same argument for Xbox about their "exclusives" being available on PC but im not, because it's flawed argument.
The fact that you made it shows that you're grasping at straws.

Gooigi's ExI can make that same exact argument that Sony doesn’t have any exclusives. Once it’s on PC it stops being exclusive.

PS5 has priority. PC follows later and not for every single game.

Gooigi's ExExcept they are not closed down silly. Yeah they did screw over Tango Gameworks but the fact that it was a game made for Xbox first and then PS5. It was exclusive and once Sony fans started playing it, they loved it. And Xbox has plenty more golden goose’s in their line up.

But they were. Only thanks to Krafton stepping in they were saved and revived. No thanks to MS.
Hi-Fi Rush was the only exclusive in the last years that Xbox has had that was actually a hit.
Xbox has zero golden goose in their lineup. Either present or future. Cope harder.

Gooigi's ExOh so since MS bought Zennimax, those games are not a hit since they were exclusively on PlayStation…right… also they were well received for your information. It’s part of their stacked line up of games. Again, that same mob hatred mentality as the other commenter.

Those games were never hits. Nor did they somehow contribute to Xbox sales. Just checkboxes in a supposed "stacked" lineup or whatever.

Gooigi's ExAvowed did not flop lol and same goes for South of Midnight. Sounds like these are not your type of games and that’s fine, but to call them flop is just wrong and just hating Xbox for the sake of hating Xbox. The status quo of “gamers” who think they know better lol

Avowed was moderate success. Wannabe Skyrim. Except worse. The kind of slop people these days seem to enjoy and praise.

Gooigi's ExThe storage thing is super dumb and the fact that they are charging that much is ridiculous. I can sit here and give faults to companies. When it comes to Sony or Nintendo, anything they do is just a slap on the wrist but Microsoft? People want death and make up dumb shit like “Xbox is dying” but not paying a damn attention what Microsoft is doing.

Slap on the wrist? People vehemently reject Sony's stupid PSN account requirement on PC and their recent price increases.
Nintendo gets plenty of criticism for it's expensive games with just a fresh coat of paint and underpowered hardware they are asking for more than it's successor. Not to mention their other anti-consumer endeavors.

MS is doing what? What are they doing? They're doing nothing note worthy. I doubt most of MS leadership even cares.

Gooigi's ExPlayStation is most certain not more important and the fact you say and believe that is what giving REAL gamers a bad name. You can love a company but you have to give criticism otherwise you’re a delusional fanboy and can’t see your favorite company do no wrong.

What the hell are real gamers? I dont love Sony. Or MS. Or Nintendo. I dont even own a console nor do i plan to own one.
Criticism is one thing. Coping via misinformation is something else. Everyone sees the decline of Xbox. It's not some fanboy argument someone occasionally makes in forums. Denying that is fanboyism.

TomorrowCriticism is one thing. Coping via misinformation is something else. Everyone sees the decline of Xbox. It's not some fanboy argument someone occasionally makes in forums. Denying that is fanboyism.

Misinformation? You are the one spreading misinformation. In what way you see Xbox declining besides not selling consoles well?

Have you forgotten that Valve was losing money on Steam Deck but was fine because of Steam? You know the platform for PC gaming? They can afford to lose money on their handheld. That goes double for Microsoft because of all the games they have under their belt and GamePass. It’s the same thing but gamers like you fail to see and honestly it’s sad. Xbox has not been declining at all.

TomorrowMS is doing what? What are they doing? They're doing nothing note worthy. I doubt most of MS leadership even cares.

Again, just hating Xbox because of status quo of an “informed gamer”

TomorrowAvowed was moderate success. Wannabe Skyrim. Except worse. The kind of slop people these days seem to enjoy and praise.

again hating because of status quo. Just because YOU don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s slop for everyone else. Not everyone shares the feelings toward that game as you

TomorrowThose games were never hits. Nor did they somehow contribute to Xbox sales. Just checkboxes in a supposed "stacked" lineup or whatever.

Again, you’re wrong. Those games were well received and it makes Xbox money. These games are part of Xbox line up whether you like it or not.

TomorrowBut they were. Only thanks to Krafton stepping in they were saved and revived. No thanks to MS.
Hi-Fi Rush was the only exclusive in the last years that Xbox has had that was actually a hit.
Xbox has zero golden goose in their lineup. Either present or future. Cope harder.

BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Cope harder he says but doing the absolute most to make Xbox look like trash. Just say you hate them more than PlayStation and Nintendo and be done with it. Your retaliations are just bitter along with misinformation. Again I already list the golden gooses they have and there are plenty. You just choose to deny them. That’s coping.

TomorrowPS5 has priority. PC follows later and not for every single game

Not as much because PC users don’t have to wait that long if at all for those games to come out. HellDivers is a prime example. Plus, when Sony release games for PC, they make more money when they just keep it on their console. Similar to that Xbox is doing….hmmmmmmmmmm

TomorrowI was comparing Xbox vs PS5. I did not count PC, Switch or any other platform. Besides PC always receives Sony games later and never on the same day as PS5 as porting takes time do do properly. It doesn't matter that they eventually came to PC as they are not on Xbox and that's what the argument is about.
I could also make the same argument for Xbox about their "exclusives" being available on PC but im not, because it's flawed argument.
The fact that you made it shows that you're grasping at straws.

You’re missing the point and it shows. You don’t pay attention Xbox and parrot what other says. You listed off games that so called good games on PlayStation and most of them are not exclusive games. Just like Microsoft is doing. Crazy that “gamers” like you can’t see the similarities or the obvious monkey see monkey do activity between Microsoft and Sony.

Your only rebuttal is I’m grasping for straws which is a fat lie and call it a flawed argument. It’s a very sound argument if you paying attention to gaming news instead word of mouth. The argument is that Xbox is dying and that couldn’t be further from the truth. Xbox don’t have any games? That couldn’t be further from the truth. You’re just rambling and parroting at this point